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african-american lawsuit ten ie governor. we're sending a very, very clear message. ralph northam has been a healer his entire life. that's what virginia is looking for and, frankly, that's what america is looking for. they are looking for healers and we're not going to -- >> tom, i hope the voters of virginia and people in america are looking for healers. lord would i love to live in that timeline. we'll find out tomorrow if you're right about that. tom perez, thank you for joining us. >> yes, we will. always a pleasure, chris. >> tomorrow night i'll sit down with donna brazile. that's "all in if" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, my friend. appreciate it. thank you for joining us this hour. happy election day eve. for the last couple of hours, law enforcement in texas have confirmed new details about the shooting in sutherland springs, texas, yesterday morning, which has now claimed 26 lives.
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it had previously been reported that the killer had used a long gun, a rifle, semiautomatic rifle to shoot dozens of people inside that small town church, two handguns, in addition, were later recovered from his vehicle, including one handgun that he may have used to kill himself after he crashed his car while being pursued by bystanders in rule guadalupe, texas. tonight, the local sheriff confirms that they recovered 15 ammunition magazines from the scene of the church shooting and he reports that all of them were empty. now, it had previously been reported that the gunman used 30-round magazines, so extended magazines. if he went through 15 fully loaded 30-round magazines inside that church, that means conceivably he may have fired off more than 400 rounds inside that small building. in addition to the fbi and local law enforcement involvement in this investigation, the united states air force and the inspector general of the department of defense are now
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involved and that's because of the nexus between the killer's disastrous history in the united states air force and the question of how he was able to obtain the guns that he used in this massacre. in 2012, he was serving in the air force when he was court-martialed for assaulting his wife and for assaulting his infant stepson so severely that he broke the boy's skull. he was court-martialed in 2012, convicted, served a year in san diego. the air force doesn't operate its own prisons or jails. when you get convicted as an airman, you get sent to the navy brigg in saunn diego. he was reduced in rank and was given a bad conduct discharge. but because of what he had been convicted of, because he was convicted specifically of a domestic violence offense, under federal law, he was not legally allowed to own or possess any kind of gun. but the air force is admitting
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tonight that at the local level, his domestic violence conviction was not entered into the national crime information center, the ncic system, which is supposed to be checked when you try to buy a gun at a gun store or sporting goods store where they follow the background system. the air force has launched a review into why his domestic violence conviction, which should have prohibited him from buying a gun, it was not entered into the ncic's database. the inspector general of the pentagon is going to investigate this as well, according to the pentagon tonight. "the dod will also review relevant policies and procedures to ensure records from other cases have been reported correctly." the shooting in sutherland springs was one of the deadliest mass shootings in american history. first in las vegas, now in texas. the president responded to the
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texas massacre by saying that this was not a guns issue. he said, "i think that mental health is your problem here." the president does not appear to be speaking from anything issuing that layman's diagnosis. but if he believed that the mental health of the killer was the real issue here, someone should ask the president why the very first things he signed as president, the first meaningful thing that moved through congress was a change in regulations specifically and only to make it easier for people who have been adjudicated mentally ill to obtain firearms. if the president believes that there's no gun problem here, the only issue here is a mentally ill person obtaining and then misusing a gun, well, this president took overt action as soon as he became president to make it easier for mentally ill people to get guns. so in terms of what, if
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anything, motivated this latest attack, there have been reports that one of the victims in the church was the gunman's wife's grandmother. there have been reports that his estranged wife sometimes attended the church as did her mother. there have been reports that he sent threatening texts to the mother. neither the estranged wife nor her mother was at the church yesterday when the attack happened. local authorities are just not commenting on any potential motivation for the attack. so we don't know why it happened, to the extent that these things can ever be known, but we do know how it happened. it wasn't that this guy turned crazy on people. he turned a military grade semiautomatic firearm on these people in an enclosed space and then, according to what the sheriff said tonight, he apparently emptied 15 high-capacity magazines into the people of that church. we're told by local authorities tonight, do not expect further
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police briefings tonight. there will be one tomorrow but we're not sure of the time. we'll let you know more as we learn more. you know, even before news broke yesterday morning of this massive shedding of blood in sutherland springs, texas, we were already in a news environment over the weekend that felt a little overwhelming, didn't it? i do this show monday to friday. on the weekends i try to tune out a little bit. this weekend i feel like i was never able to tune out because so much stuff happened over the weekend and specifically so many news stories broke over the weekend and over the course of today, too, that have been both big stories and surprising stories but they've all had some degree of like opacity or density to them that's made them hard to absorb. nothing simple has broken over the last few days and a lot of what's broken over the last few days is a really big deal. take this story out of saudi arabia, for example. this is potential world changing stuff. it's certainly middle east changing stuff. and i'm quite sure we don't know
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what's going to happen next here but if what continues to happen in saudi arabia is anywhere near as momentous as what just happened there, this really could be the start of a whole new era in international politics and in international economics. last -- the last saudi king, king abdullah, died in 2015. he was 90 years old. when he died, his half-brother took over as king. so the new king of the saudi arabia is king salman. it was clear that it may not be a long-term arrangement and i don't mean that in a rude way. king abdullah was 90 when he died. king salman was 79 already when he took over. that was two years ago. he's now 81. in the couple of years that king salman has been king, he's maneuvered aggressively to install his favorite son as his formal and obvious and powerful successor. and he picked his favorite son for that role when his favorite
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son was only 30 years old. the favorite son is mbs. he's now 32 years old, very young, already been named the top economic adviser in the kingdom, the chief of the royal court in the kingdom, the defense minister of saudi arabia and officially the guy next in line to be king. he had to jump over a bunch of his cousins in order to get that role. and we don't know what happened to set off what happened this weekend, but honestly, saudi arabia and the royal court and the line of succession turned into an action movie. it started off bizarre ree with the prime minister of a whole different country resigning as prime minister of his country while he was in saudi arabia the prime minister of lebanon on saturday announced he was stepping down as the lebanese prime minister and lebanon is a whole other country from saudi arabia but the lebanese prime minister announced in saudi arabia that he was stepping
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down. why did that happen? if president trump was going to resign from office, that would be momentous enough if he went to mexico to announce it. that said, that was really strange on saturday. and nobody knew what that was about and hours after that strange announcement, the crown prince, the mbs, announced that he was taking over the security forces that had not yet been brought under his control and then mbs was in charge of a brand-new anti-corruption unit in the first act of this new previously unknown anti-corruption unit was to arrest and lock up 11 other princes, four currently serving ministers of the government and ex ministers. they locked up all of the princes inju riyadh indefinitel.
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all of them have been banned from leaving the country. private jets are being blocked at the airports and not being allowed out. and we don't know if this next part is related in the movie version it certainly would be but hours after all the princes got arrested, one of the princes, who was apparently not available for immediate arrest, this was another former crowned prince, hours after all of those 11 princes got arrested and locked up, this other prince, former crown prince, ended up dead in an unexplained helicopter crash hours after his cousins got locked up in the ritz carlton. so we don't really know what all of that is about. we do know, however, that our government is totally on board with whatever's happening. the crown prince who arrested all of his cousins appears to be
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consolidating power that hasn't been seen in saudi arabia for at least 50 years. he somewhat famously visited president trump in the oval office in march. less famously, he hosted jared kushner last week. when jared kushner took an unannounced under the radar trip to saudi arabia that we were not allowed to know he was on until he returned. david ignatius at "the washington post," who always has the best dirt on saudi arabia, today he reports that during jared kushner's unannounced trip to saudi arabia last week, jared spent several nights staying up till 4:00 in the morning plotting with mbs, with the crown prince. and jared came home and the crown prince launched his coup. so the lebanese prime minister shocking everybody by announcing his resignation in saudi arabia followed by the arrests of all of the princes, followed by the death of one of the princes. that all happened in very quick successi succession on saturday.
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president trump then called the saudi king the day after on sunday and whatever happened in that conversation, the white house gave a readout about what that discussion was about and made no mention that anything unusual at all was under way. no mention of the arrests, no mention that the entire saudi royal family was being grounded and a large portion were being held against their will. no mention of that. just a statement of support from mr. president and that a call had taken place. he believes the saudi king and mbs, the crown prince, quote, they know what they are doing. they may know what they are doing but i wish we knew what they were doing. particularly if this is the start of them going to war with iran or something, it would be good to know. maybe the white house knows. maybe they'll tell us. maybe jared knows. so all that's stuff broke on saturday. saturday afternoon, saturday night and into sunday. just previously unimaginable news out of this incredibly
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important country in the middle east. and at the same time we're trying to figure out what's going on with that story, we get the paradise papers. huh? you've heard of the panama papers. this is twice as much fun. the paradise papers -- this is something you'll hear about in days, weeks and probably months ahead. there are hundreds of news outlets working on the paradise paper story all over the world. the reason so many news organizations are working on it, the reason it's going to be lots and lots of stories and not just one story is because what the paradise papers are is a repository of millions of documents that were hacked or stolen or otherwise somehow leaked from a law firm, a law firm in bermuda that sets up intentionally complex, hard to follow and sometimes secret entities to help very rich people move their money around, make investments, buy stuff and generally avoid ever paying tax on anything. and as i say, there's going to be a lot of news that comes out of this trove of millions of documents that has just been
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spooled out to news organizations around the world. but for the trump administration, problem numero uno is wilbur ross. the billionaire who president trump appointed commerce secretary. this is not the first time that wilbur ross' financial and business dealings have has been source of controversy and intrigue since he joined the cabinet. remember when paul manafort and rick gates got indictmented and there was reference to offshore bank accounts in cyprus, did that ring any wilbur ross bells for you? if it did, that's because it remains a source of great interest and controversy that wilbur ross served as the vice chair of the bank of cyprus at a time when banks in cyprus were like -- you know how like frisbee is a brand name but frisbee is basically like the brand name generic for flying
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disk or kleenex, technically you'd say please may i have a facial tissue? the brand name is kleenex. that kind of dynamic. wilbur ross became the vice chair of the bank of cyprus at a time when banks in cyprus were like the branded generic for i'm laundering money for russian oligarchs connected to vladimir putin and putin's family. it's the kleenex. it's the frisbee of russian money laundering. and wilbur ross was vice chair of the bank of cyprus and he's long denied that there was anything shady about his time at the bank of cyprus. he's dismissed about the simultaneous involvement of putin oligarchs at the same bank at the same time as him as just a matter of financial coincidence. but now thanks to the paradise papers reporting, we've learned that wilbur ross' financial ties to russian oligarchs are not even through banks and not only
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things in his past. wilbur ross was actually praised by some ethics watchdogs when he announced that he would be divesting himself from dozens of business partnerships to avoid conflicts of interest in his role as commerce secretary. since then it's emerged that wilbur ross maintained billions of dollars in assets that he never disclosed to anybody when he was being confirmed for commerce secretary and it's now been disclosed that among the holdings he chose to retain, when he joined the cabinet, was a significant interest in a firm called navigator. and the way navigator makes money is because it has exclusive business deals with a russian oligarch linked to vladimir putin, one of the first russian businessman to be sanctioned because of its link
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to putin and the other notable shareholder in that firm, that right this second as we speak continues to enrich our serving secretary of commerce, the other notable shoerk shareholder in that firm is this handsome fellow. he's vladimir putin's son-in-law. he's married to putin's daughter, the one who does the rock and roll aerobic dancing thing. wilbur ross claims there's nothing illegal or nefarious about this business. he insists that he did not really need to disclose this stuff to the senate when he was confirmed. but he also doesn't deny that this reporting is true, which means that of all the different limpbs between russia and the trump administration, this is the first time we've had confirmation of an ongoing current major business relationship between a serving,
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high-ranking trump administration official, a pretty direct relationship where a cabinet official in the trump administration is making money off putin's family. and i say it's the first time we've learned that a senior member of the trump administration is making money off vladimir putin's family right now. i say it's the first because whom among us believes it will be the last time we learn of an arrangement like this in the trump administration? in the paradise papers reporter we've learned that a russian american investor, who has held major stakes in facebook and twitter, was able to purchase those stakes with money that was put up by the kremlin, by the russian government. that same russian american investor has made a significant investment in a firm controlled by jared kushner and his brother. jared kushner, of course, told congress under oath that he's never relied on russian financing in any of his business ventures and we now know while he may not have relied on it, he
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certainly received it. who wants to split those hairs? so as i said, there's a lot going on right now. and a lot of these news stories are dense and complicated and i think it's worth trying to keep an eye on some of this stuff even though you can't absorb all of it as it comes out but there are two other stories that we have just learned over the same time period. they are both a really big deal and both have broken alongside all of this other important news but they may be determative in terms of what happens next in the trump administration specifically and those two stories are next. stay with us. ut the trash? (sigh) ( ♪ ) dad: molly! trash! ( ♪ ) whoo! ( ♪ )
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"the washington post" last
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night ran this remarkable headline. somewhere, someone clipped and saved the print version of this headline today for their trump administration scandal scrapbook that they're planning on handing down to their kids and grandkids. remarkable headline, right? at least nine people in trump's orbit had contact with russians during campaign and transition. at least nine. the different contacts with russians that happened during the trump campaign and during the trump transition. they drop one and potentially important new information about the robert mueller special counsel investigation that we didn't have before. again, this is new reporting in the rosalind and tom and carol reporting. they have recently asked for records related to trump tower moscow. the recently reported plan to build a new trump tower skyscraper in moscow.
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a plan that the president's real estate organization was working on during the campaign. the president never mentioned that while he was running for president, even though he personally signed a letter of intent to pursue trump tower moscow in october 2015, which was right in the thick of the republican primary when all of the debates were happening and all of the rest of it. so i think that it's important not to lose that piece of it. it's one thing to know here, particularly given the president's past on the record threat that he would fire robert mueller if mueller started looking into his real estate business. now "the washington post" is reporting that mueller is definitely looking into the president's real estate business. at least the part of it that happened during the presidential campaign and that secretly involved russia. so i know a lot of stuff has been going on right now but given the president's threat to fire bob mueller if bob mueller does "x," it's worth reporting that "the washington post" is now reporting that bob mueller is doing "x." the other thing i want to sfik a
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pin in here is msnbc reporting over the weekend that the mueller investigation has sufficient evidence to indict trump national security adviser michael flynn and also his son, mike flynn jr. who worked with him on the campaign and in his consulting business. now, nobody knows if robert mueller actually will indict mike flynn or his son and it's also possible that he has indicted one or both of them and that indictment is sealed and we don't know about it. but there exists enough information to issue an arrest warrant in it conjunction with the flynn investigation. all right. and we will have to see what that means as the story gets ripe. but again, if that reporting, there's something buried in there that i think is potentially a very big deal. in that reporting, msnbc also described something we previously didn't know about mueller and about flynn. tomorrow's election day, right? today we learned that trump
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campaign official rick gates will have his ankle bracelet deactivated at some point so he can vote in the virginia governor's race. but one of the truly unusual things that happened last year on election day is that on that day, mike flynn published a bizarre over-the-top op ed in "the hill" newspaper that called for the united states to extradite a turkish guy who is a legal permanent resident of the united states. turkey definitely wants him back so they can prosecute him. the united states has made a decision thus far not to send him back to turkey but mike flynn on election day published this op ed saying that the united states should. that's a strange thing to have done, especially on election day. that op-ed from mike flynn led to a ton of reporting about the fact that, hmm, the reason that weird op-ed came out on election day is because he's on the turkish government's payroll and
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he was being paid by the turkish government while he was simultaneously serving as trump's national security adviser on the campaign. that resulted in notifications to congress that flynn appeared to be on the turkish government payroll. that relationship with the turkish government also led mike flynn to retroactively forced to register as a foreign agent. now, get this, now nbc news reports, "in the weeks following trump's inauguration, a request was made to the fbi that the fbi should reconsider whether or not they were going to extradite that guy to turkey. now, we don't know whether mike flynn who was secretly on the tissuish government's payroll, we don't know if he's the one who put in that request to
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reconsider ex intere reconsider extraditing that turkish guy but now we know that bob mueller's team is investigating that. "whether flynn attempted to orchestrate the removal of this turkish cleric from the united states to turkey in exchange for millions of dollars." oh. headline from that nbc story is they've got enough evidence to indict somebody in the flynn investigation but this detail about what mueller's looking at is potentially a very big deal, right? it's one thing to secretly be a foreign agent on the payroll of a foreign government while serving as the national security adviser to a president-elect, right? it's another thing to promise that an exchange for that foreign government paying you, you will take official acts in your position as an employee of the u.s. government to benefit that foreign power. that's a really big deal. and if robert mueller is on to that with regard to flynn, if
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robert mueller is vinvestigatin that, that he tried to take official acts to benefit a foreign government in exchange for money, if that's what he's after mike flynn for, if that's what he nails mike flynn for, then anybody who tried to obstruct or slow down or divert or pressure the fbi investigation into that matter, they'd be on the hook, not just for some technical process violation but for a disastrous national security compromise. if that's what mueller is going after flynn for, that's a very serious deal and anybody who tried to stop that flynn investigation, anybody at all, would be on the hook in a very serious way. as i said, a lot is going on right now but there's a lot going on right now that's really important. no time to tune out. stay with us. t accident i got in with the pole, and i had to make a claim and all that? is that whole thing still dragging on? no, i took some pics with the app and... filed a claim, but... you know how they send you money to cover repairs and... they took forever to pay you, right?
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if there was any kind of quid pro quo, one of the messages that this russian advocate may have taken back to moscow is the trump administration will be very ameanable to repealing the magnitsky act. >> adam schiff back in july was asked whether any sort of quid pro quo was on the table when the president's son and his campaign chairman and son-in-law jared kushner all met with a kremlin-connected lawyer and a whole bunch of other russians in trump tower last june.
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we know donald trump jr. thought he'd get dirt from the russians on hillary clinton. but was there a tradeoff? was there something offered from the russian side but also the trump side in that meeting? congressman schiff was pointing to a reasonable working theory, that if russia wanted anything from a future american white house, what they'd probably want would be sanctions relief. they'd want relief from the magnitsky act. the magnitsky act is a sanctions bill that targets russia. president obama signed it in 2012. putin was so angry about the imagi sanctions that he blocked americans from adopting russian orphans. if you're looking for something the russians would have wanted in exchange for helping he elect somebody, an end to that sanctions law would be a pretty good first guess. what we've heard so far from donald trump jr. is that as soon as the magnitsky act came up in
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that meeting, his side shut down the idea. >> the pretext of the meeting was, hey, we have information and there was -- i don't even remember what it was. it was sort of nonsensical and quickly went on to, you know, a story about russian adoption and how we could possibly help and that's really when we shut it down. >> really, that's when we shut it down. donald telling his favorite cable news host in the summer that they shut down that meeting as soon as the discussion of russian sanctions came up. he would later tell congressional investigators the same thing. he said "until that day i had never heard of the magnitsky act and had no familiarity with this issue. jared excused himself to take a phone call and i proceeded to quickly and politely ended the meeting and said there was no reason to have this discussion and she thanked us for our time
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and everyone left the conference room. my father isend of store reerks meeting, or not? the kremlin-linked lawyer from that trump tower meeting says that's not how it happened at all. the lawyer, natalia veselnitskaya, said donald said look ag head, if we come to power, we can return to this issue and think about what to do about it. in other words, hey, you give us whatever dirt you have on hillary clinton now that we can use it in the election and then if we come to power, we can return to this sanctions issue for you. a lawyer for don jr. says they have no comment about this interview with bloomberg news. veselnitskaya made this comment in an interview with two blo bloomberg reporters and said
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she's ready, if asked, to tell the same story to robert mueller. joining us how is henry meyer from bloomberg news based in moscow. he joins us from paris now this evening. thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome, rachel. >> i don't know whether or not to believe miss veselnitskaya about her accounts of what happened at this meeting. i feel like she's told a lot of different stories about her interest in taking the meeting, her affiliations with the russian government. how credible do you find this claim about the president's son? >> actually, i don't have any reason to disbelieve what you were saying. i mean, ultimately, is it in the russian's interests to show mud at the trump administration? i think she came to us because she's under a lot of scrutiny right now. she's received a summons from the senate judicial committee. they want evidence from her and
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she felt this was an opportunity to come forward and put her version of what happened on that fateful day june the 9th, 2016. >> the thing that is very striking and potentially very legally dangerous about your reporting for donald trump jr., if this account proves out, it does appear to have been -- you're jibidescribing donald tr jr. pressing her for financial information that may be damaging to hillary clinton's campaign and essentially in exchange, promising to do something about her concerns if they come to power. did she describe this as something she understood to be a potential exchange, offered by donald trump jr.? >> yes. i mean, she said that he intimated that the trump administration, if president
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trump came to power, that they would reconsider the law and that was right after she discussed in detail her objections to this law. and then he went on, trump jr. went on to talk about the financial documents that he wanted to see because veselnitskaya came to that meeting with what the russians call dirt on democratic donors who had allegedly evaded u.s. taxes on about a billion dollars of money which investments in russia which they repatriated to the u.s. and when this was brought up, the response from donald trump jr. was okay but show us the documents, do you have proof that some of this billion dollars actually went to hillary clinton and then when veselnitskaya said no we don't,
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that's when the meeting was shut down. >> henry meyer, senior government reporter for bloomberg news joining us tonight in the dead of night from paris. thank you, sir. i really appreciate your time. thank you. anybody who stays up until 4:00 in the morning in paris just to talk to us rather than to do something more fun than you can do at that hour in paris gets extra thanks. i will say on this point of veselnitskaya and whether she's credit nl he credible here, she's offering to tell this story to the united states senate, judiciary committee and to the special counsel's office if that comes to pass. i have no idea whether to expect whether that might come to pass. lots more tonight. stay with us. my dad's.
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often the last day of march 1968, president lyndon johnson gave a speech about vietnam. while he was in the middle of waging that war, lbj was running for re-election as president. on march 31st, 1968, he gave the address to the nation about vietnam and he tacked something unexpected on to the very end of that speech. >> i shall not seek and i will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president. you this for listening. good night and god bless all of you. >> that revelation in the middle of the democratic primary and the speech about the war had e
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"the new york times" the next day not breaking out one but two giant semicolons. look. johnson says he won't run, holts north vietnam raid, semicolon, bids hanoi join peace moves. and the american disaster in vietnam, the shock of a president not seeking a second term, potential path to peace. in any other election, the president dropping out of the race, one whole book would have been written and instead that becomes this interesting footnote, a thing that happened one day in what was an absolutely wild ee election in 1968. four days after he dropped out, martin luther king was assassinated. two months after that, the guy who was supposed to win the democratic primary, bobby kennedy, was assassinated in
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california and the guy who ended up clinching the nomination was never on the ballot in any of the primaries and chicago police and the national guard were outside using tear gas and batons against the protesters in the street. 1968 was madness, particularly on the democratic side. and 1968 was also the guy that we got this guy on the republican side. and thanks in part to the chaos and the implosion of the democrats, richard nixon won the presidency that year. not easily, but he won, and we all know what happened next. we are a year out from the last presidential election as of tomorrow. an election that is still testing the stitching in our democracy right now. at times like this, i find it helpful, i find it illuminating even to remember even if we've never been quite through this before, we have been through a
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lot. we have been through way more than you might think and i have a really good way for you to marinate yourself in that because joining us right now is my colleague and host of "the last word," lawrence o'donnell, who just wrote the book on it. it's called "playing with fire, the 1968 election." >> thank you, rachel. i was at a high school eyewitness to these things, i shall not seek and will not accept. we had those words memorized instantly when lbj said that. no one knew he was going to say it. almost no one in the white house knew and the one person who did know was lady bird and he had a hand signal with her. he told her he wasn't decided because it was at the end of the speech after he gave a speech about vietnam policy and how he was going to try to
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depoliticize, as he put it, vietnam policy, he's not going to run and he had a hand signal that he gave to lady bird warning her, i'm going to do it. i'm going to drop out. and the fascinating thing that i discovered only in working on the book is, yes, he dropped out. it was over. lbj had been drumped, in effect, by the dump johnson movement. but as the convention was approaching, it wasn't over in his head. he was still thinking after the b bobby kennedy assassination, maybe i can go into chicago. he was actually making plans to travel to chicago. >> wow. >> the riots broke out. it was very clear to him there was no way to pull this off but he started to think maybe i'm the solution, and i'm the surprise nominee in chicago. >> the thing that i found reading your book is that it's the only thing that i have read in the past year that made me feel the same way that i felt about the overwhelming nature of the news in the past year and a half. >> yes.
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>> the past year and a half in our politics, it's not like we're not all aware that something big has happened, that a series of large things have happened but so many things have happened that were previously unimaginable in quick succession that we keep feeling like we got to the end, that we got to the big point, we've got to the most scandalous thing and then it's just immediately subsumed by something that is bigger and unimaginable. your book about 1968 is the only other thing that has made me feel like, oh, right, we've done this before as a country. we've been this overwhelmed. >> and we've been in a worse place because as difficult as this is for people who didn't want to see a trump presidency and we now have a very sigma majority of the country disapproving of the trump presidency. >> most ever. >> and this movement that we call the resistance. we had a resistance this big before and it was in 1968 and it was against both the johnson presidency and then following it was against the nixon presidency and it was an anti-war
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resistance. and what was at stake was nothing other than life and death. everyone over 18, every male had to have his draft card in his pocket. it was a crime to even be without it and it. and a drfederal crime. kids suddenly started burning these things publicly. in 1964. they had to pass a federal law to make destroying it a crime because they hadn't made it a crime yet. people sentenced two years, six years for burning draft cards. nadia of pussy riot on the show friday night and told us 1968 in america was one of her great inspirations. she -- she didn't know i had written a book about it. she said the things we saw here in 1968 gave them the energy and a lot of the spirit they bring to it now. a lot of it was very kind of -- had elements of anarchy with the yip pis and jerry reuben and the fun that p ssy riot throws into
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the very serious demonstrations and protests now and so much of what we're going through today we've been through before and just as a reminder, 1968, 16,000 american soldiers killed in 1968 alone. >> alone. >> over 500 in 1 month of 1968. there's something like 2,600 total right now in afghanistan in the 16 years of that. and without a draft, very, very, very small percentage of the country actually feels that risk of life in afghanistan and iraq. and so, the tensions that this country was feeling every single day in 1968 were way more powerful than what we're feeling now. >> lawrence o'donnell has just written a new book coming out tomorrow, "playing with fire." lawrence, again, congratulations. really, it's really good. i'm very proud of you. always happy you're my colleague and really enjoyed it and just
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say this to the viewers. you have heard way too many watergate discussions in the past year because we have gotten a very scandal-ridden administration and heard too much of watergate. learn about it from nixon did and if you want to learn about watergate, learn what the country was like and what was going on in the country at the time watergate happened which allowed watergate to end the way it did and to understand that is to understand '68. >> and a little bit of collusion in the victory in the end that is worth -- it's actually nixon used collusion with a foreign government the south vietnamese to win in the end. >> that makes it homework. well done, lawrence. all right. we'll be right back. because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home... even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl's orthotics. clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress
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we'll see tomorrow. it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" with aforementioned lawrence o'donnell. >> it is my turn to blush. >> a nice lady named judy who wants you to run for president. >> wow, wow. i'm going to read this from page 53 of the transcript. tonight. this is the part of the transcript where trump foreign policy adviser carter page is questioned by republican congressman trey gaudy. he says, quote, was the trump campaign aware of your visit to moscow in july of 2016? page replies, quote, i had asked if, you know, i had mentioned it a few times to jd gordon and i
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had, you know, again it was a standing invitation. i sent a note around to the other members of the team and -- gowdy says, why? page responds, quote, just to make sure because there was some starting to allegations about or concerns about russia in general. he continues with his questioning. quote, right now i'm trying to understand who you e-mailed and the content were. if you were going to moscow in july of 2016, who did you tell? why did you tell them and what did you tell them? page responds, quote, i just mentioned that -- i forget the specifics but it was corey lieu lewandowski. just wanted to let you go. i'm just going to moscow, just wanted to let you know. he says he notified, jd and corey lewandowski and hope hicks. they denied that anyone was in


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